I really feel like more people need to constructively engage with this! You can think the moderation/centrism discourse is often braindead (as I do!) but the center left really needs a pretty robust convo about what winning, say, an Iowa or Kansas or Texas or Ohio senate seat would look like.
It’s because of the senate map
May 13, 2025 23:22I think you can make a very convincing argument it doesn't, for instance, require denigrating and dehumanizing trans folks, but what *affirmatively* does it look like to run, say, 8 points ahead of the national ticket? What positions/rhetoric/candidate bio would make that possible?
One thing you will *have* do is, in a maximally attention-grabbing way, distinguish yourself from your electorate’s perception of a “generic democrat.” McCain was extremely smart about picking one or two Big Issues where he waged holy war on his own party and something along those lines might work.
The argument is just… what does moderation even mean? Be crueler to people who can’t punch back? That’s both cowardly loser shit and will also actively repel most people. They’re speaking in vagaries to mask that there are no real ideas, just the Racism Dial.
Like what do they actually mean? It is important when people say “moderate” they say what they mean. Because every time it reminds me of this.
Honestly? They've got to drop the "We're the adults in the room" crap, stop acting like left-wing policies are the vegetables you hide in mashed potatoes, and start talking about how they want to make people's lives better and less stressful.
It is literally impossible: Red state voters have drowned themselves so deeply in propaganda and developed a hatred of Democrats that is now self-sustaining. You can’t ask for better candidates than Jon Tester and Sherrod Brown, but it simply doesn’t matter to voters.
The people are the problem.
It is quite literally impossible. The structure of the Senate and the fact that voters in red states will not remotely consider anything other than a MAGA Republican mean that it is a pointless pursuit for Democrats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/5022750-democratic-party-senate-loss/
This BS from Dems is crazy.... they'll gladly loose 157 progressive voters for the chance to court 10 "centrist" which is a F'n joke of a term in the USA where basic stuff like providing health care or even just having taxes is considered a radical left position.. US middle is far right.
I lack any love for the Dems, but I am just seeing bad history about Kansas. The Dems ran a Republican leaning independent in 2014, didn't really come any closer then their later races. The current Governor of Kansas said in a public debate she would defend trans women in spot and won reelection.
Y'all can do whatever you want, but like the Governor of Kansas won reelection while being pro trans women in sports, and is probably socially to the left of the Governor of California.
I truly believe most people don't care about your positions as much as they care about strength and conviction. Democrats think we need to moderate but a strong progressive who didn't back down from their values would have a better chance anywhere than some milquetoast poll-chaser.
The mayoral race in Omaha should be studied for such insight. The outgoing woman, a 12-term mayor who, as a former resident, I can affirm she did good for that city. But today she was handily defeated by Omaha’s first black mayor.
Study. Learn. Utilize. Win!
The DNC has to do A LOT to distance themselves from the Schumer/Pelosi image, that they clearly are fighting in the open, and behind the scenes, TO CONTINUE with them as "leaders" in the Democratic Party and its message.
THIS current DNC is going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2026. 🤬
Aren’t you the ahole who claimed Trump was to the left of Hillary Clinton?
I really feel we need to break out of this left/right mentality given current reality. Law and order, republic vs monarchy, corrupt vs legitimate, power vs powerless. The lines are being redrawn while pontificating about winning Kansas.
Personally if politics was my profession and I couldn't find a way to make opposing genocide a winning political strategy in my own country I would go home and blow my own brains out. But what you're doing is cool too I guess.
As a Kansas resident, it requires a conviction from the Democratic candidate that isn't too far progressive, but sane when running against a Trumper, which is why we've had Dem governors for 14 of the last 22 years.
Even then, it's a hard road to hoe here for Dems. It requires a candidate as bad as Kobach for the Dem to stand a chance. IMO, you can't count on a chance in KS until you can get a Dem that will make a difference to the lives in rural areas.
This is bananas: you all see what’s happening to government right now, right?
Meanwhile, these ivory tower navel-gazers are planning for the next elections.
Like, honey. Babe. Our government just isn’t that ✨into✨ democracy anymore.
Or even a Wisconsin, Michigan, or Nevada looks like. Because Trump ran the table in 2024
Noooo! We have to literally seize the means of production tomorrow or nobody in this thread can ever call themselves left wing again!!
It’s not the centrism discourse it’s shifting the political spectrum and normalizing far-right talking points to the point centrist dems think “catering to the middle” means pushing human rights to the side and ostracizing their base
So now we have to throw out the Constitution of the United States and start all over?
Hey Chris, when was it ever constructive to point out that the US never really wanted a fucking dictator?
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Center left is doomed because they think centrism and moderation are synonymous.
There are people who voted for Obama and then Trump. It is fundamentally flawed to think the thing driving those people is a desire for moderation.
Every recent election is about change. But not from left or right…
People want change from a sucky future. A death of the American dream. A reality of never affording a home, or a family. An endless daily grind and somehow still falling behind.
They will vote for anyone who they believe with actually change the course of events, as anything is better than this.
Maybe rather than triangulating ever rightward they need to stand up for things they care about. Argue affirmatively. Point out hypocrisy, fear, anti-libertarianism, waste, abuse, corruption, …
Staying out of people’s pants and medical decisions.
Competing with China by funding science, education…
I don’t think Trump holds traditional conservative positions and I don’t think he understands how the world works. Run on that. Rather than following him off the cliff to our right.
Because running a centrist campaign has historically been so fucking successful there. 🙄
I’m tied of democrats clinging to their norms. We are way passed that. Democrats need to broaden their tent and give more progressives a seat at the table. They need to also reach the young people. Especially the men. I have three sons in their 20s. The Democratic Party has zero to offer them.
Economics. It's economics. Adopt an actual left leaning stance on economic issues that oppose billionaires, point out how the right wants to cave to billionaires on everything at the expense of everyone else, then follow through.
What ever happened to persuasion? Democratic Party landslides came with the New Deal and Great Society.
bsky.app/profile/theo..."I knew the Reagan landslide marked America’s entry into a regressive era, but I never dreamed it would last this long or end in the extremes of the MAGA fascist regime."
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MY LIBERAL AGENDA, AND I AM STICKING TO IT
I do not need a leader to show me the way.
Why not cosplay physically in those states while having left positions?
Their voters think Kennedy (LA) and Cruz are authentic roughnecks. Put on a cowboy hat when saying you’ll nationalize SpaceX.
Hey Chris. We have been engaging for years. Take a look at my book which came out at least a decade ago.
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UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION IS CENTRIST AND MODERFUCKINATE! Just STOP badmouthing people you don't understand because you never meet or talk to them since they don't show up at salons in NYC.
The Ds turned their backs on working people in the 90s. Many got rich off offshoring jobs. To win, turn back.
As near as I can tell, Biden's Inflation Reduction Act was a middle-of-the-road, middle-class boost that our-performed all expectations. And it made those so-called centrists madder than hell. There is no center to appeal to. It's just post-1865 vs pre-1865.
the democrat's fecklessness and hypocrisy are an intentional plan to avert taking responsibility for leadership and retreat into finger-pointing and virtue signaling in this time of polycrisis.
I will saw this: As a Democratic Voting Texan, the GOP District Courts under Justice Thomas have been allowed to gerrymander, stop mail in ballot requests, & restrict mail in registration… Paul Bettencourt (fmr voter registrar of Harris County), actively writes voting laws to end 1/2
Drive up voting, 24 voting at GRB Convention Ctr, multiple drop boxes in Houston. Paxton sues blue counties to prevent mail in ballot registration forms from being mailed to voters. Voters re-register every year. No legal process for residents to collect signatures, to get issues on general ballot.
Ohio is running on gerrymandered maps that the Ohio Supreme deemed unconstitutional several times. The GOP majority kept running the clock out until it was too late for new maps. The system is beyond broken here. Then let’s look at the millions poured into the campaigns of JD Vance & Bernie Moreno.
Being pro worker appeals to all and is a game changer in states like Ohio. Many democratic politicians have lost touch with that mindset or do not speak on it well. If you can reach the people and have a message that resonates we could see change in the state.
This lying fucker "does know" the Rule of Law and rapes it, destroys it for a Traitor/Mob Boss Trump.
Trump has Kompromat on this disgusting spineless supreme court justice-
Fuck them to hell-tired of this Anti-American Bullshit.
Our rule of law is in peril because of Roberts & his ilk.