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- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Ok The link DOES work if you click on it in real time. It just doesn't want to fire up here on BlueSky for some reason. Might be just how Vimeo works.
- For those who wish to watch/listen to today's session of the Lunar Destinations for Human Explorers Steering Committee Meeting via the @nationalacademies.org Here's the link via #Vimeo - vimeo.com/event/5101810 Session Starts at 10:00 AM EDT
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Dan Dumbacher closing the morning session will reconvene open session at 12:00 Noon EDT.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox - If there is more information we can provide, ask us we're happy to provide anything in support so reach out but the start is going to be wide ranging and up for grabs but the most impactful reports will be the most focused. Like Joel's approach.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Kerns if you look at things in the near term, mid term and far term that might make things more trackable. Should start jumping out what the different scientific decadal surveys jump out. Want to see if we just focus our human explorers on the South Pole?
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Kerns: priorities we want to hear everything.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Anything in the statement of task you want us to prioritize over another science discipline? A: Fox - No there are any science I'd prioritize more than the other I love all my children equally. Would not prioritize any science over another. Kerns don't think there are...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Would it be helpful if the committee identified capabilities and id'ed things that might enable some of the human missions we're working on? A: Fox Yes with caution. Don't want to dilute the study, it's going to be a daunting study. Want to make sure it supports the topic
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Sort of shady region between the Poles if we're recommending sending astronauts where can we send them? Kerns: astronauts to less than 84 degrees were restrained to about 90% of the surface. Use it wisely!
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q; On communications system for the Moon what will that look like will impact science and crew safety: Fox: That's a ScAN question we will get that sent they are working on the LEGS program for lunar comms. esc.gsfc.nasa.gov/news/Expandi...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox as a warning but if they are decided on the surface of the moon it means they are HITTING the surface, want to think ahead on what we put on all landers going to the moon to monitor that. The Moon lives most of its time IN the pristine solar wind. We take this EXTREMELY...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - A: FOx: Solar Partical events are concerning they travel half the speed of light someone was watching the Sun all the time during Apollo. We have the Hermes payload that was due to go on Gateway Want to put particle detectors there ( easy to build) can put them there...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: ON radiation worried about solar particle events that might impact an Astronaut, how far does an astronaut have to be from a protective base in the event of an solar particle event? Can we get info on the communications on that?
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox we had another experiment on Blue Ghost to see how sticky the regolith is and another that would put an electric current though the regolith to remove it. When you get to Mars, we know that has the same issue, it built up on the rotor blades on Ingenuity.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: On Distance of landers how pristine can you keep the surface. A: Fascinating comment Fox Says it's amazing how much regolith the Blue Ghost lander kicked up. Say you want to put a solar array out, you'll need to know how much regolith gets kicked up if you plan to return.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox: There are science instruments going to certain locations but we also have location agnostic science on CLPS too.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox: want to drive the capabilities, we had the Hooper that was supposed to be demonstrated on IM2, a Canadian rover coming up soon, want to drive the capability rather than to sit back and see what happens. More info on the future CLPS landers would that help?
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Dumbacher is there an assessment on what the Robotic abilities are up to? A: Fox- wan too see if these things can survive the night we are driving future capabilities though CLPS, there are things we can do form CIS-Lunar orbit, lunar orbit LRO is still going...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Kerns: We do have plans to bring field geologists to the South Pole, right now CLPS can't bring samples back, we need to hear that there are things that a trained field geologist can do on the Moon and want to hear form you what those things might be.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Dan Dumbacher ( who asked the question above ) : If there is future application it can be added but.. Fox: Right if there is a future application it could be added but it should not be the driver.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Where do you see applications for later on down the line ( Mining H3 ) A: Fox We need to focus on WHY we need to go there and what to do while we're there, the spinoff applications that's fine but would rather go because its a unique decadal science region.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Fox: envision a separate panel for Mars but want to focus on the Moon, but if it a plus that's good too.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Moon to Mars: Anything we should consider? A: Fox: Think you have a pretty broad task, if this has a direct benefit to humans or robotic on Mars be it a tech demo or prep for something, I'd love it but this is focused on the lunar part of Moon to Mars, envision ...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Do we ignore the efforts on others going to the Moon? There's European and China efforts? Worry we might pick a site and discover China wants to land nearby. A: Fox you can use that to prioritize your decisions but if there is a place we want to go, we should go
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - ...want to get the committee's input on that. Q: What is the justification for long term missions? A: Fox: does it require multiple visits to a site or is it a "one and done" that's what we want to hear for non polar sites. we have science goals but want your recommendations.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - If you have one experiment that sits there for 6 months then requires being looked at that's one things but on Artemis III there's a moonquake experiment and you don't want to touch that Kerns: What do the non polar campaigns look like, want to address the decadal, but...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Sounds like the question is about how long stays will be on the lunar surface and they are asking for what is the role? A: Fox: Answer is a sustained presence on the Moon, if a study requires a longer duration stay than we'd want to hear & that will drive ESDMD requirements
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - (Fox) - the partnership is symbiotic, We can cache samples with robots for later human retrieval, Its the science that will be the deciding factor Kerns" Robots can be used to replace experiments for use by humans, we have a 50 yr history in doing robotic science...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: How does Human and Robotics pair? A: Fox: Both has a role, everything we do at NASA is exploration, we can send robotic explorers into the areas humans can't get to, Going to Mars? what are the 10things we need to know before we send humans? For the moon ...
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Q: Want to define "Poles" When you define Pole how big how small is that? How does the North Pole factor in respect of the South Pole? A: Joel Kerns: South Pole is defined as Lattitudes 84 Deg South. We're not focusing in on the North Pole right now.
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Vision for Global Lunar Science
- #NASA #NatlAcademies - Astronauts can collect more samples than robotic missions can conduct traverses for better sample diversity, can deploy stations over a wide area, can conduct tests for an initial layout and then re-deploy those experiments. NASA is pushing fwd with DSN modernization.
