you JUST described cointelpro lol
communists are indistinguishable from people trying to destroy communism you say
"ooooh the CIA pwned you" is like.....not the flex you think it is but
but yes counterintelligence can be effective at infiltrating any radical group
The FBI and CIA have put a lot of focus on far-right groups since the 90s. They absolutely monitor leftist groups as well, but leftists, for the most part, aren't usually infiltrated. There's no need to. Most leftist groups are immature and unlikely to really do anything, and aren't a threat.
You're out of your goddamn mind if you think far-right groups have gotten more government attention than Palestinian liberation groups over the past couple years or BLM-type criminal justice reform groups over the past decade.
And you're a goddamn moron if you think "they've increased focus on" equates to "more than." How fucking stupid are you to not grasp a very basic English sentence?
I guess I'm a goddamn moron for seeing a clear implication.
Um they also literally said this lmao
"They absolutely monitor leftist groups as well, but leftists, for the most part, aren't usually infiltrated."
Because they're not. Most leftist groups since the 90s haven't been because they're not a "threat" in any real sense. Obviously some have and still do. It's still a thing. But not nearly at the rate of the 50s and 60s, and that's partly because today leftists are ineffective and don't have influence
Weird it seems like you have no point to make and got mad when someone called you on your inane and meandering posts
The point I've been making is leftists in the US are useless and don't form orgs that are worthy of government resources or attention. It's an indictment against leftists. They're lazy, selfish, and don't do anything.
I was also born after the year 2020 thanks for clarifying your knowledge base for us. You should look into BLM and whether the govt thought that was worth infiltrating
Ah, the famous, "I'll point to one example to destroy your argument that was about the aggregate!" Again, this is why no one takes leftists seriously. You all are kind of dumb. BLM was absolutely infiltrated and viewed as a major threat. It stands as an anomaly to most leftist movement as of late.
“Here’s a famous example of how I’m wrong but actually you all are the stupid ones here”. You can just admit your wrong and move on but you choose to do this lol
How does the example of BLM prove anything I said wrong? Go for it. Show how, "Enforcement and infiltration has dropped since the 60s," an inherently broad assertion, is somehow proven wrong by pointing to a particular. This should be exciting to see you defy logic.
Because enforcement and infiltration *increased* more recently as evidenced by extensive surveillance and infiltration of left wing groups starting around 2014 in Ferguson. But I don’t expect you to acknowledge this because you’re just so hung up on punching left
It increased for BLM. It did not increase for leftist groups as a whole. BLM isn't the only leftist org out there, and it's hardly an org so much as its a movement of different orgs, some of whom were ineffective while others were effective.
Do you have any knowledge of Ferguson or what happened to the people who organized protests there?
So instead of dealing with the fact that the anti-BLM actions likely stemmed more from racism within our system rather than leftism, you just double-down and go, "But what abotu Ferguson?!"
Again, morons.
YOU claimed left-wing organizations and organizers weren't being increasingly targeted by the govt and example after example is met with "lol yeah I'm wrong but you're the dumb one"
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT! Pointing to BLM and people acting for racial justice IS NOT pointing to leftist groups en masse you imbecile.
May 8, 2025 13:42Now do "Antifa"
lmao holy shit I bet next you're gonna tell me Dr King was a capitalist